Thursday, March 10, 2011

College: The Easy Way



Read this article in the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/05/opinion/05herbert.html?_r=2&emc=eta1
Respond in one paragraph as a comment. Be prepared to discuss this in class.

19 comments:

  1. Kourtney Vance

    I can agree with Bob Herbert about college students studying less. Because of the high school systems today, they only make sure you meet the requirements to get into college and they don't try to "broden the students horizon". When they become college students, they pick the easiest majors because they have not been trained to seek a higher learning, but only to meet the requirements. This is why universities have low graduation rates.

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  2. Brandon Rice
    I do not know how to feel about this article. I dont think college is that hard but at the same time I dont know anyone who went to college, so my view is unclear. Southern, for example has a large number of teachers who attended this school. They went to school in a time where college was "harder" and they are the ones who are letting they present day students off.

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  3. I agreed with the article to a certain point, Bob Hebert must keep in mine that universities need to change with the new generations that are attending the colleges. I think less effort in studying, because no changes have been made over years to enhance certain courses. For example, there are professors who taught our parents and still teaching the same way.

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  4. The article states so very interesting facts. There are allot of changes from the 1960's, however the mind frames of students today is focused more on partying than education. The students today are just coming out of high school, not accustom to paying bills, supporting themselves, and really in most cases don't value life circumstances. The students of today have just come out of a situation of just getting a passing grade.

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  5. I can see how this article is true. I have attented two different colleges and still only know a few students that take school seriously. I guess that today college isn't only about the classroom. Students are really coming for the college experience and hope for over-night success.

    Burnett king

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  6. In my opinion, the article by Rob Herbert it very true. College students these days spend less time studying and more time partying. Now a days college students just want to live life instead of worrying about their future. I am not saying that college students should not have a social life, but we should all learn how prioritize. I have friends that go out every day of the week and go to class maybe once or twice a week. It's also not all the students fault, some college professors let them slack off yet they help them pass at the end of the semester. This makes them think that they can slack off instead of teaching them how to be responsible adults. If these kids are supposed to be our future nurses, lawyers, and engineers, i do not think our future is looking so bright.

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  7. In many way this article is true. When student come to college they tend to relax and party more and do everything else but study. yet still a lot of student still end up with good grades because the system is made in such a way that it is easy to pass without much effort. the student should not be the only individuals blamed but also the teachers. After getting a college level of education individuals communication skills should be ten time better than it is now in our society.

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  8. Bob Hebert has a very detailed point in this article. It's kind of hard to say students don't really learn anything about their major though. If they don't learn anything, then I don't think that they would beable to perform the task and have a job. In my opinion, Bob Hebert was correct about students partying and not studying because I see it at my university. This problem would be resolved if the grading scale would change and become a little more difficult. I say this because people would have a hunger to make that better grade because that's the only way they will pass the class.

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  9. Morgan Brenton

    I agree and disagree with Bob Herbert. Many college students are just doing the bare minimum to pass classes and get their degree. Also, many students are putting in many hours of studies and choosing technical majors. It really depends on a persons background on how they view college. If a person just skated through high school then chances are they won't put forth a big effort in college. I feel that there is more to the study than colleges going easy on students.

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  10. Lilliona CaldwellMarch 16, 2011 at 1:36 PM

    In some situations I agree with the Author. Many college students are studying less but it isn't because they are taking easier courses. In my experience all the people I know in college are challenging themselves and taking harder majors so that they can have a better life in the future. These students and myself included are taking harder classes trying to achieve higher knowledge so that we will be able to take a job where higher knowledge is needed, be able to use efficient problem-solving skills and such. Then there are certain situations where someone just gets the understanding of what is being talked about and they don't have to study. Sure a lot of things have changed since 1960 but so has the way people learn, teach, change, and adapt. Therefore, in some cases I agree with the author in other cases I do not agree.

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  11. Di'Shun Melbert

    I do agree with Mr.Hebert but not with his statements of students coming to college under prepared. I feel as students of a new generation we are over prepared we have all the knowledge of the world at our fingertips with the click of a few buttons, this is both a curse and a blessing. For this reason, a lot of students including myself feels that some information do not have to be retained, because it is easily accessed. Past generations had access to information, but they were forced with the challenge of digging and searching for it, usually at the library. Therefore, when information was found learning would be the best option rather than returning. At some universities the staff is more concerned with keeping their jobs rather than what the students learn so they do keep their classes slightly easier, in an effort to help students pass. These teachers who do this become "best teachers" to take for students taking classes that is outside of their major, or that couldn't make the cut in order classes.

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  12. Yes, I agree that the cost of college has definitely risen. Southern's tuition was only two hundred fifty dollars in the fall of 1982 as opposed to the two thousand two hundred ninety-two dollar cost for the fall semester in 2010. Hasn't the cost of everything risen these days? I also agree that many students are studying less and partying more. In the 1960s, people married and started families at much younger ages. In today's society, many young adults start families and live at home with their parents until they reach their thirties.

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  13. Raykita Coleman

    The article is not accurate when it comes to students coming to school to party. I believe that some students come to school to learn. I agree that the cost of college has went up trmendously. I also think that alot of students are ill-prepared for the college lifestyle.

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  14. The article to me is correct but not correct. I feel that they right from the perspective on we not learning and self disciplining ourselves through college. I mean a lot of us come out of high school with our own paths and do not know how to start the beginning of a new chapter on becoming your self.We're learning but trying to live and its just college life.

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  15. The article written on College the Easy Way was very interesting.I agree and disagree in so many ways.Some students do come to college to party,while others work very hard to accomplish their goals.There are students who take easy courses to pass so that they can party,while others spend time studying each day so that they can develop the skills needed to succeed in life.It really depends on the individual who would like to excel and fill as if He/She has earned it.

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  16. In today's society, a college education will give you a leg up on the non-college educated people. The economy is bad and it is very competitive now for jobs. More competitive than it has ever been in my 45 years on this Earth. So, just trying to get by to get a degree at least puts you in a position to get ahead in life. Yes, the value of a good education has fallen by the wayside. All kids want now is that piece of paper. But, that piece of paper can take them a long way.

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  17. I completely agree with Mr.Bob Herbert. The tuition for colleges are increasing every year and classes are getting easier. Nowadays many college students do try to take the easier method either from picking a simple major or classes. I have always heard that college is going to be the best experience in my life regardless if I attended an ivy leaque school or university. Since I am a college student I can say a lot of students do party a lot but a lot of students also serious about their work .

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  18. I agree and disagree with the author, becausing partying in colleges and universities have been going on a long time, probably since the sixties. I do agree that some student are not as prepared for college as need be, but some are. I think it depends on the student attitude and goals. If you are looking forward to be a success, then you come to college and apply yourself to be a sucess. If you come to college to do good, then you apply yourself to do good. I do agree the criteria in colleges/universities have change and is not as challenging, but students must take responsiblity for not doing what is necessary to be all they can be. In my personal opinion, some students are just spending government money or their parents. It means nothing to them, they did not earn it.

    Connie Coleman

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  19. I agree with author on some of his statements. College tution has gone up tremendously. Some students are not prepared for college as they should be once they leave high school. College is not the same as high school. You have to apply yourself and knowledge to be successful in collge. Most students come to school to attend parties more than to study, i agree with that statement. College is not a must to most students its an option, and don't take collge serious.

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